TAC Tech => Mechanical => Topic started by: N PRGRES on January 07, 2022, 12:34:12 PM

Title: Steering Gearbox
Post by: N PRGRES on January 07, 2022, 12:34:12 PM
Need to replace mine but want a new or a well rebuilt one.  Who have people used other than Auto Zone or Advance auto?
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: SoupMan on January 07, 2022, 01:42:39 PM
Cardone has good rebuild. If you aren't looking to keep it original you can upgrade your steering box to a 3rd gen camaro box which can give you a better ratio. I did that last year and I don't regret it. The advantage of 1980-81 cars is they have metric thread and makes the swap a bolt-in.

CARDONE 276530 is the stock part for the 80-81
CARDONE 276550 is the tighter version if I recall. What they call FE3


Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: b_hill_86 on January 07, 2022, 02:19:45 PM
Why do you need to replace yours out of curiosity? Is it leaking?
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: highway star on January 07, 2022, 04:40:17 PM
Had my original rebuilt, was leaking at the pitman arm. Pressure tested etc. by builder.
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: Gold member on January 09, 2022, 05:19:15 PM
Rock auto . LARES 1105 {#276510} (Remanufactured) Remanufactured Info
w/ Power Steering; 10:1 Fast Ratio    $258.79
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: N PRGRES on January 10, 2022, 06:33:40 AM
Why do you need to replace yours out of curiosity? Is it leaking?
its sloppy feeling.  tried to tighten it up but due to its age and such, I just want a new one
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: N PRGRES on January 10, 2022, 06:35:07 AM
Cardone has good rebuild. If you aren't looking to keep it original you can upgrade your steering box to a 3rd gen camaro box which can give you a better ratio. I did that last year and I don't regret it. The advantage of 1980-81 cars is they have metric thread and makes the swap a bolt-in.

CARDONE 276530 is the stock part for the 80-81
CARDONE 276550 is the tighter version if I recall. What they call FE3
I am not concerned about "stock" in this case since it's not stock already.  Did you get the rebuilt one for the 3rd gen box?
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: b_hill_86 on January 10, 2022, 08:19:28 AM
Why do you need to replace yours out of curiosity? Is it leaking?
its sloppy feeling.  tried to tighten it up but due to its age and such, I just want a new one

Keep us posted if you find one and how it works out. Mine was leaking and what I felt as sloppy. I picked one up from rock auto and not only did I have issues with it at low rpm it was hardly, if at all, any tighter than my old one. I rebuilt my old one to stop the leaks and reinstalled it. I read around an inch of wheel movement back and forth is normal I think. Mine is about like that. I feel like I was probably comparing the feel to modern cars. That’s just me though. You may have better luck with something like that Lares mentioned above 
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: SoupMan on January 10, 2022, 01:25:30 PM
Cardone has good rebuild. If you aren't looking to keep it original you can upgrade your steering box to a 3rd gen camaro box which can give you a better ratio. I did that last year and I don't regret it. The advantage of 1980-81 cars is they have metric thread and makes the swap a bolt-in.

CARDONE 276530 is the stock part for the 80-81
CARDONE 276550 is the tighter version if I recall. What they call FE3
I am not concerned about "stock" in this case since it's not stock already.  Did you get the rebuilt one for the 3rd gen box?

The cardone 276550 is a 12.7:1 fixed ratio. I believe the stock is 14:1 variable ratio (Possibly someone can chime in)

Make sure you can save the end fitting. In my case I was not able to
https://www.amazon.ca/Edelmann-39107-Steering-Fitting-Beaded/dp/B000CGPKSY (https://www.amazon.ca/Edelmann-39107-Steering-Fitting-Beaded/dp/B000CGPKSY)
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: Vroom_vroom on January 10, 2022, 09:39:37 PM
are you happy with your ratio? send it out and have it built the way you want it. i know steer and gear in ohio builds a nice one, i sent mine to straight line in san jose and told them how i wanted it to drive and they killed it. nice and tight steering with just the right amount of assist. im a big ban of building a box the way you want i have had an off the shelf reman and they are meh at best.
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: b_hill_86 on January 10, 2022, 09:45:56 PM
are you happy with your ratio? send it out and have it built the way you want it. i know steer and gear in ohio builds a nice one, i sent mine to straight line in san jose and told them how i wanted it to drive and they killed it. nice and tight steering with just the right amount of assist. im a big ban of building a box the way you want i have had an off the shelf reman and they are meh at best.

Wow, I wish I’d heard of them when I wanted a new box. I’m just 2 hours north of them and if I remember right nprogress is somewhere here in Ohio too.
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: scarebird on January 10, 2022, 11:23:28 PM
This is the best there is, bar none:

https://turnonesteering.com/products/steering-boxes/

Superb feel in my Trans Am.  One of the members here also sells them.
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: JJ 109 on January 11, 2022, 03:47:21 PM
I have used the Cardone 12:1 3rd Gen “IROC” box twice.

The first was perfect love the tighter ratio.

The second one I got was sloppy and driving me nuts. Trying to decide what to do next.
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: N PRGRES on January 12, 2022, 01:14:10 PM
Thanks everyone for the input!
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: 79T/Aman on January 18, 2022, 10:55:09 AM
PTFB has 12:1 all new (except for the case) 700 series (same as what is originally in the car) for $579.00
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: scarebird on January 18, 2022, 02:24:20 PM
Is the supply of 600 Series boxes dried up?
Title: Re: Steering Gearbox
Post by: 79T/Aman on January 18, 2022, 07:35:13 PM
we have 670 boxes as well they start at $799.00, the supply of Delfi casted cases has probably dried up, GM sold Delfi to Borg Warner 2 years ago and that started a shortage of the 600 series cases again but we've been able to get some, just got 3 of them last week.