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EspriTA350:
So I'll get right to the point. I am going to stick with building a Pontiac 350. The 400 is of course tempting, but all of the deals I tried to make kept falling through, or they wouldn't answer the phone, or it'd turn out that the block is a thin-wall casting, but oh hey wait I've got this 1970 block I'll let you have for $500. Just turned me off from it entirely when I know I can get a 350 easily.

So the "underdog" build is back! I am going to look at and hopefully pick up another 350 early next week from a gentleman who runs a GTO club. He wants next to nothing for the block, so I told him I'll help him excavate it. The day always goes by faster when I'm getting my hands dirty. It should be a fun time.

Meanwhile I am trying to make sure I save everything that I can from my cracked 350, namely the oil pan/pump setup, and the crank since it's already mag'd. It's a road race pan and pump so they're worth hanging onto as well. I also know the engine mounts were replaced very recently, as in right before I bought the car, according to receipts. I have a hunch that they may be the Lab14 engine mounts. However,  I can't ask the previous owner anymore if that's what they are, since we fell out of touch. How would you tell the difference between the Lab14 mounts and the regular ones?

This is the only picture I have where you can see them... I won't be up close with them again until I bring the other 350 to the machine shop.

5th T/A:
Sorry I can’t help you on the engine mounts. I am not aware of any problem with OEM type mounts, so if they look good I wouldn’t hesitate to use them. Congratulations on finding a reasonably priced 350 core. Kudos for building a 350, I see no reason why you shouldn’t be able to get some pretty decent performance as the displacement isn’t that far from a 400, especially if you have decent heads. Looking forward to watching your build!

EspriTA350:

--- Quote from: 5th T/A on March 02, 2021, 06:27:57 PM ---Sorry I can’t help you on the engine mounts. I am not aware of any problem with OEM type mounts, so if they look good I wouldn’t hesitate to use them. Congratulations on finding a reasonably priced 350 core. Kudos for building a 350, I see no reason why you shouldn’t be able to get some pretty decent performance as the displacement isn’t that far from a 400, especially if you have decent heads. Looking forward to watching your build!

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The Lab14 engine mounts are stronger than stock, which is why I'm so curious about whether that's what they are or aren't. If they are just regular replacements I'd be tempted to pick up a set of the upgraded ones.

I feel like the heads are a good choice, they're pocket-ported small-valve 16's with a valve job, screw-in studs, and hardened seats. I was advised to pick a cam with duration no higher than 220 @ 0.050 on the exhaust side so that's what I asked for from Crane Cams. A lot of this is egyptian hieroglyphics to me, and to be honest I am not quite sure what to expect but I know it will run a heck of a lot stronger than stock. There's a gentleman on a few other Pontiac forums by the name of "Ponyakr" who claims to have a 434 hp Pontiac 350. That would be awesome! But I don't think mine is going to be quite as strong as that. I'm hoping to hit numbers that are better than what a 350 HO could do. I've looked at the specs for an 068 cam, and it has significantly more duration than my new cam, although waaaaaay less valve lift.

Here's the stock cam for comparison:


Here's the cam I'm switching to:


068 cam specs


I've read a lot about this cam saying that it's almost too rowdy for a 350. If you ask me, it sounds very streetable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5rfk_lPPE

Was I too cautious with my cam choice?

ryeguy2006a:
Good deal on finding a new useable block. You'll be happy you stuck with the 350 as it seems like the theme of your build. I can't remember, but did you have any plans for EFI? Keep up the good work.

I've always wondered what a built Pontiac motor would do if it was built similarly to an LS motor. Sequential EFI, roller cam, ported heads, etc.

EspriTA350:
Tadaa! It's a 1968 350, complete with all of the valve reliefs. Looking a little "feral" in this state, but at least I've rescued it now.



The owner pulled it out with a backhoe after we hooked it up to a hoist, and I got to work stripping it down to the bare block. The whole disassembly process only took about 2 hours. This was so much easier to do with an engine out of a car, compared to me doing this with my previous engine months ago. Honestly it was such a fun day even though it wasn't anything more than undoing bolts most of the time. I even found myself wishing I could work for this guy full-time even if I was nothing more than a "gopher" in his shop. He was very jovial and helpful the entire time. I had brought some of my own tools but he let me use whatever else I needed. He apparently works alone, mostly on Pontiacs. Building, restoring, fixing, painting, you name it he does it.

Speaking of his shop, here is what I was greeted by upon walking in:



 
The day was not without its hitches, however. We tried to turn the 350 engine by hand and it would only move a little in either direction before stopping. Upon stripping most of the engine we found that the #7 cylinder is stuck pretty good (and by extension... the torque converter is also stuck since we can't reach all of the bolts). He seemed insistent that it would be best to deliver it to the machine shop without the torque converter still attached. I admit I feel a little sheepish at this point since the last block I delivered still had the torque converter on it. Hopefully there were no hard feelings at the machine shop, as I honestly did not know that was even an issue.


--- Quote from: ryeguy2006a on March 03, 2021, 05:59:03 AM ---Good deal on finding a new useable block. You'll be happy you stuck with the 350 as it seems like the theme of your build. I can't remember, but did you have any plans for EFI? Keep up the good work.

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No plans for EFI, I am loving my qjet.

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