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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by Wallington on Today at 08:56:00 PM »

1976 Assembly has a diagram that shows an 1895 globe in the rally gauge pack.
1980 Assembly doesn't appear to have this diagram or list globe.
1976-81 Parts shows F-body dash with 1895 globe listed.

GM #9417863

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by stros on Today at 08:09:08 PM »

You’ve got a good eye- this is a non AC Trans Am that has aftermarket AC installed in it.  The brand is “Old Air” and leverages the non AC controls to run it.

Ah gotcha. I figured as much but wasn’t sure. Does it just operate off of the vent setting? Sounds like I was wrong about the bulb. Sorry to steer you in the wrong direction

No worries on the bulb - that’s by far the easiest item to deal with on this project.  Yes - the AC runs off of the vent controls.  It’s a pretty cool setup that was much cheaper than Vintage Air at the time.

Good news!  Got the speaker out the glove box side, after lowering the center vents.  Not sure if I could’ve done this entirely thru the glovebox side instead but there’s no way that speaker would fit thru the gauge cluster opening.  The bracket fits my replacement speakers too but the new bracket looks like it may be easier to install.  It arrives tomorrow - will decide what option to take then.

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by b_hill_86 on Today at 09:28:27 AM »

I want to say it’s the same as the other. 192? Your center vents look different than mine. I have the piece with the vent deflectors that change the direction of the air and nothing behind them but the plastic duct. As I mentioned, I think I took mine out through the glovebox area. My replacement speaker didn’t allow for the factory placement of the center vent ducts so I’m positive I removed it in the process.

I’m curious. You have center vents but what appears to be a non-AC HVAC control

You’ve got a good eye- this is a non AC Trans Am that has aftermarket AC installed in it.  The brand is “Old Air” and leverages the non AC controls to run it.

Ah gotcha. I figured as much but wasn’t sure. Does it just operate off of the vent setting? Sounds like I was wrong about the bulb. Sorry to steer you in the wrong direction

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by Wallington on Today at 12:43:04 AM »

It said 1895 on the chart I looked up, but wasn't terribly specific for some models.

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by stros on May 21, 2024, 10:14:53 PM »

All good, I was actually referring to this speaker pic rather than yours, in the 2nd gen section.

Haven't you got access to rear of gauges you just took out to check globe?!  I don't have one nearby to check.

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-jooapdgscx/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/1395/7528/1st-front-speaker-bracket-installed__55530.1697568153.jpg?c=2?imbypass=on

It has some generic LED bulb installed in it with no numbers on it.
 From what I can tell it’s an 1895 or 89 bulb.

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by stros on May 21, 2024, 10:13:01 PM »

I want to say it’s the same as the other. 192? Your center vents look different than mine. I have the piece with the vent deflectors that change the direction of the air and nothing behind them but the plastic duct. As I mentioned, I think I took mine out through the glovebox area. My replacement speaker didn’t allow for the factory placement of the center vent ducts so I’m positive I removed it in the process.

I’m curious. You have center vents but what appears to be a non-AC HVAC control

You’ve got a good eye- this is a non AC Trans Am that has aftermarket AC installed in it.  The brand is “Old Air” and leverages the non AC controls to run it. 

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by b_hill_86 on May 21, 2024, 10:04:53 PM »

I want to say it’s the same as the other. 192? Your center vents look different than mine. I have the piece with the vent deflectors that change the direction of the air and nothing behind them but the plastic duct. As I mentioned, I think I took mine out through the glovebox area. My replacement speaker didn’t allow for the factory placement of the center vent ducts so I’m positive I removed it in the process.

I’m curious. You have center vents but what appears to be a non-AC HVAC control

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by Wallington on May 21, 2024, 09:41:41 PM »

All good, I was actually referring to this speaker pic rather than yours, in the 2nd gen section.

Haven't you got access to rear of gauges you just took out to check globe?!  I don't have one nearby to check.

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-jooapdgscx/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/1395/7528/1st-front-speaker-bracket-installed__55530.1697568153.jpg?c=2?imbypass=on

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by stros on May 21, 2024, 08:36:57 PM »

Also I noticed my bulb was dead in the fuel/volt gauge cluster.  Do you guys know what size bulb goes there?

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Electrical / Re: Steps to replace center dash speaker

« Last post by stros on May 21, 2024, 08:34:16 PM »

Initial surgery is complete - gauges are removed.  There are 2 bolts holding in the bracket (was expecting only 1).  Looks like there are nuts behind them holding them in.

Moving the center air ducts out of the way would make it a lot easier to get to.  To move them do I just need to loosen the bolt circled on the right?

Still not sure I can slide the speaker and bracket out thru the main gauge cluster.  Looks like a tight fit.  Do you guys think it’ll be easier to pull it out thru the passenger side/glove box area?