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Wallington

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Door jam vents
« on: February 27, 2024, 11:06:09 PM »
Has anyone tried the OER or another reproduction brand of the door jamb vents? I had a set from several years ago, only just decided to test fit and found no chance of slipping into place, both sides. The stamped panel is thicker than the spacing between the tabs. It even cut into the flange of the rear tab to show it needed at least 1/3 of its thickness filed back to start to fit, and yet this was still only installing on one corner first, not both, and the tabs taper to thicker as it slips in. No chance.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WZsAAOSw3u9hHWx9/s-l960.jpg

Naturally, my almost perfect original set were sold or given away years ago prior to testing. Standard.

I also see that many stock photos appear to show a NOS type that has the screw holes recess, mine does not. I'm not aware of any changes. Even those that claim to carry their own brand of these still appears to be the same pieces from same factory.

Anyone have further info
More trivia, I have not checked to confirm this.

NPD / AMK list this as the 70-76 version of screw used, #8 x 3/8" screw.

https://d2zl5tj7gmc4tr.cloudfront.net/images/products/c-12943-1ak_20230317150307.jpg

They list this as the 77-81 version, a metric M4.2 x 13.
https://d2zl5tj7gmc4tr.cloudfront.net/images/products/c-12943-3ak_20230221090231.jpg

Anyone have further info, original screws used on theirs or fit of reproductions? Massive dramas or fit like a glove?
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Re: Door Jamb vents
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2024, 06:12:40 AM »
As far as the screw hole is concerned, you can try wrapping a paint stick to protect the finish and a C-clamp to get the hole to close enough so one of the screws will fit.  As for the OER
vents, it's a shame the company can't duplicate the OEM part.  This may be a go time to add this  to your OEM vs OER thread.  :o)

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Re: Door Jamb vents
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2024, 07:31:35 AM »
Sorry cant help, only used original parts. But you would think a part could be made at least close to correct.
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Re: Door Jamb vents
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2024, 09:14:13 AM »
OER has no clue how to replicate a part to look and act as an original.  After buying their console, plus reading the horror stories on fitment of their other products,  I won't buy any OER stuff if possible.  I'll look for good used or NOS.
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Re: Door Jamb vents
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2024, 11:55:33 AM »
I vote for the first set of screws. I think the screws on second photo are wrong, or maybe I'm wrong  :D
My vents had broken edges, but fortunately my friend have 3-4 3rd gens for parts, so I got them for free, as well as little door rubber bumpers.

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Re: Door Jamb vents
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2024, 12:59:46 PM »
Well, you've got me interested now.  I've never heard of classic headquarters.
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Re: Door Jamb vents
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2024, 02:38:12 PM »
Last year I bought some parts from Firebird Central, a couple of them were in Classic Headquarters bag.

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Re: Door jam vents
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2024, 03:09:34 AM »
Ended up breaking one of the vents anyway, cracked right through when filing to try and make fit.

Had to ship a used set around the world to simply compare. And yes, there's differences. And no, they are not close to the condition of my originals I gave away when I picked up the new OER packs. Originals have more space (only just) and more taper of the tabs, both things I have to file for with the OER vents. The other differences are that the OER does not have countersunk screw hole, and the overall length of the bottom lip is about 1/3 longer than GM, meaning when trying to flip it into place it has further to go and more pressure on the seam when it doesn't fit, and snap. Plastic isn't meant to bend or flex along a sharp casting corner. And of course, even one of the GM used I picked up is cracked the same way. So yet again, need to source yet another. Should already have about 10 sets for the cost I've spent on these plus shipping.
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Re: Door jam vents
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2024, 10:32:47 PM »
Ongoing saga that should never have existed. Bought 2 more good used with international shipping, seller seems to have swapped them from pics and I got one that was rough and one that was cracked. Junk. So I found a seller of new repros with correct pic, confirmed with them that the parts matched this detail, of course they do...more international shipping, items that turned up were of course nothing like sample pic but even 2 different castings to each other, same packet. One is regular type, the other almost a 3D casting and flat and angular, no curves. They accepted a refund but new eBay rules say I have to use their shipper of choice, DHL. But no, over here the nearest DHL that accepts parcels to ship or return is 90 min away. All the rest are collection points. So another freeby for the bin. Then a local guy said he had a couple of good used spares and will pick the best. More money sent, junk arrives that has been chewed on and spat out. Bin overflowing now. Now, who will I buy from next.

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Re: Door jam vents
« Reply #9 on: Today at 04:40:02 AM »
i assume you have tried dave clee
as far as i know he stopped importing used but may have old used stock
just checked
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Re: Door jam vents
« Reply #10 on: Today at 06:51:30 AM »
Now, who will I buy from next.

Me if you want lol. I have one I don’t need. If international shipping cost isn’t too much you can have it. I can dig it out and send some pics first if you want.
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Re: Door jam vents
« Reply #11 on: Today at 07:46:18 AM »
Thanks AusTA, although pic possibly shows otherwise I think Dave stocks the OER for that one. I possibly even asked him. Same with one or two of the other local stockists. Actually, I think that's where my original set came from, just years ago.

Haha Thanks Brian, I was more posting out of boredom and to share the absurdity of something so cheap and simple that no one can seem to get right! The more you ask them to check, the more you say this is the reason why, plus the fact you are also shipping around the world at the cost of the item on top of it, and they can't even bother to peek and confirm they are helping out. And the local guy with used who knows you are already fussy, forwards something that's busted, I don't get it!

It was more about not being beaten and I'm not feeling like I'm coming out on top! It wouldn't be so bad if I had a few small items to justify asking the seller if they had one to throw in, don't really need anything. But still...unfinished business!

Just for the hell of it here's the last 2 new vents that arrived. Not the best pics as was for seller/ebay only. The first one is fairly typical OER/Dorman style and the lower was completely flat and thin like a laser-cut plate, almost. I didn't try to install either to test. I just want one, GM or repro, that fits and has recessed screw hole, is that too much to ask?! Apparently it is!

I think there was a second part of this thread, or maybe in the GM NOS vs repro where I had pics of the OER and the dramas I had filing to even make fit regardless of the non-recessed screw hole for the countersunk/oval head original screws used, not showing here. It's really a non-issue other than the dramas getting sent the correct type after confirmation they even had it!

Firebird body vent spares new (2) by Ben, on Flickr

GM used

Firebird used original 8788235 body vents 70-92 (2) by Ben, on Flickr
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